given him? >> well he has to be because his popularity numbers have gone up and the republican popularity numbers have gone down, in fact they have dropped like a stone, jon. they now stand at 20 8%, lowest they have ever been. another reflection this was miscalculation, the koch brothers who funded so much conservative projects, issued a letter, wrote a letter to the senate. don't blame us we were not in favor of tying funding of obamacare to shutting down the federal government. so i think the republicans have really made a terrible miscalculation here. jon: so if absent the government shutdown, kirsten, would the headlines these days in the news coverage on, you know, the major networks, would it be all about the obamacare rollout? >> i think there would have been a lot more about it. certainly, president obama was having a lot of political difficulties, even still, even