stahl with wtov-9. he says that this is a deputy chief martin kimball with a bulletproof vest on. we also have here -- >> got it. >> -- we also have -- he sent a picture -- he said these are -- this is shattered glass outside the federal building that his cameras picked up. >> what we know is there were 20 shots fired. the gunman is dead and a report from multiple sources including the local newspaper that the shooter who is now deceased is a former police officer. now back to dana and "the five." >> all right, thank you, shep. welcome back to "the five." the u.s. soldiers creed calls for no one to be left behind. and when the unfortunate occasion of a military death occurs, the american government owes the same loyalty to the fallen's family. since the shutdown began on october 1st, 26 service members have died, leaving 26 grieving military families without death benefits. and this has created righteous anger and confusion. listen to this. >> this isn't about the government shutdown. it's about whether the commander