>> not about individuals funding it because most individuals who sign up will be getting some kind of subsidy. and there is a bunch of tears. -- tiers, you go gold, bronze. it's corporations that will have to sign up fund obama care. younger people will not sign up. they will pay the $100 fine. they will not sign up. if you are defending on the younger people to sign up, the healthier people they aren't going to sign up anyway. it's not worth their while to do. so they would rather have no insurance and not pay anything. >> how many work for corporations that don't give insurance, bill? >> what? >> hardly any corporations exist that don't already offer health insurance. >> bill: everybody -- look, why do you think obama gave a waiver to some corporations. >> they are all different kinds of waivers and a lot of them are very specific to certain situations in those corporations. i mean, he they are not -- it's not an across the board waiver. >> companies of the united states that drive the money into the obama care system. >> no. >> not the individuals. >> the people who are trying to sign up right