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senate and have the president sign it into law. at some point in time we have to take the risk that we've got the support of the american people to put pressure on democratic senators and they are the holdouts. every democratic senator will vote to repeal or defund obamacare. can we get democratic senators to join us? we have to take the risk. >> when you vote on cloture, you uh don't know what the bill will be. >> we're probably pretty sure. >> not 100%. semi rolling the dice. >> the majority leader will always have the power post cloture to amend the bill with 51 votes. the way you defund obamacare is you have to get the super majority support of the american public. i appreciate any effort to the federal budget, personal freedoms. you have to get super majority support of the american public to put pressure on democratic

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