been progress is to have killed far more people in this country. john: they don't just want to invade. what is the philosophy behind it? >> they ultimately want to remake the world in our image. that is what they have said. that is what progressivism always has been about. remaking the people in the ghettos in our image many elite white americans and remaking of the united people of the world in our image as well. john: as you say, domestically it goes well beyond that. we can make education better. we must run education, health care. we must police the work force. we can make everything better. government can do that benignly. >> that's right. it is uplifting the poor and oppressed through the means of the state, through that monopoly on violence. domestically that is taxation and law-enforcement brought for military force. very consistent. john: no matter how often it fails, they continue to support that. so thank you. coming up, what does the