tended to be completely ignorant of where the americans are on these issues. he is completely ignorant of where his own party is. a majority of republican voters don't want to shut down. they don't want all of these arguments. they want to see the leadership come back to the table and stop taking away things essential for our growing middle cloos. >> why do we keep coming to this road, though, ron, this isn't the first time we have been in the threat of a potential government throwdown or shutdown. what about gop lawmakers also who wanted to fund obamacare, how does that play into the risk of a shutdown. >> it will be a risk. they are fighting the status quo obama wants to keep spending or keep things as they r. we are trying to make sure things are different. in terms of obamacare, yes, that has to be worked out. there is an internal fiber for that. i do like the idea that has emerged regarding the delay of