of the tribunal for the masses. and it was downhill from there. they gradually give stuff away with a steady increase. >> including with other staples of the roman diet. john: people would show up in this way? >> yes, they had a test and they got away with it so that anyone could fill up and get this free stuff. >> and they decided that you had to be edited by the state. >> well, not everybody, but they started public schools? >> well, it was much later. largely with homeschooling. in the first public had was about 250 bc and they were not