the whole focus was on the mother and the fact that there was some ballistic evidence that showed she had gunpowder on her hands and the baby's father had gun residue on the hands, too. that's why her testimony is absolutely critical to show she in fact was a victim, not the perpetrator of the crime. >> trace: we have seen this in trials. jodi arias trial and this trial and the defense trying to paint the victim really here as the perpetrator, and is it working with juries, in your systems? will this work? the evidence seems fairly overwhelming against these two kids. >> it certainly does. the only eye witness to the crime was the mother. so it was brilliant of the defense so say, wait a minute, this is conjured up by the mother. what they have to overcome is the fact that the mother was injured as well she had a grazing of her ear, the bullet grazed the top of her head and bullet wound to her leg so it's consistent to what she is saying. it's hard for jurors to believe she would take a bullet that