>> bill: okay. the video might be planted trying to get the usa to directly intervene against assad. may or may not be true. let's assume that it is true. let's assume that the cia verifies -- it's not hard to do. you go into the hospital, you find out if these people were gassed. you can do that in three hours. all right? let's assume that it is true. gas is being used by the assad regime. the president has said it's not going to stand. what would you, dennis kucinich, do? >> there has to be an international tribunal. >> bill: you'd punt it over to the u.n.? >> i wouldn't have the u.s. invade militarily. that's not going to happen. >> bill: there's a difference between invasion and intervene. there's been a discussion at the united nations, and china and russia won't cooperate at any level. the united nations won't convene a tribunal, do a thing, because