>> steve: that's right. today we're waking up with the news that the four -- remember, nobody at the higher echelons, nobody at the state department, including the secretary of state, in trouble in any way. they had to punish those four mid-level people. but today we're waking up to the news that john kerry, since he's taken over as secretary of state, has reviewed the complete account and has determined that those people did absolutely nothing wrong. they're free to return to their job. this includes former deputy assistant secretary raymond maxwell who -- he was never told why he was on administrative leave. eric boswell and department assistant assistant secretary charlene lamb, she was in charge of security in benghazi and she is back at work. not the same job, but she's back at work because, according to john kerry, did nothing wrong. >> anna: but maybe they did and maybe they didn't do anything