owned by the same corporation but not the same thing. i sim pa these with chuck todd and aaron burnett -- erin burnett said cnn was a division of the media. >> this business about a firewall is an utter kinard unless things have changed since i left nbc and msnbc. >> and very skilled, an answer core at nbc said this. take a listen. >> here you have the republican chairman, i would say, understandably miffed ab these hillary clinton films, one a documentary, the other an entertainment film, which is, you know, all about -- >> bad idea? >> a bad idea? >> a lot of news people would say including nbc news people including chuck todd and the rest of us, a really bad idea given the timing. >> it's one thing to do a movie about somebody after they leave the oval office, another one to do beforehand that could propel that person into office,