intervention in iraq and afghanistan. what do you think they are thinking or rethinking at this point? >> well, certainly you have to make, take steps, affirmative steps if you see this sort of disillusionment and discontent or isolation from the rest of the troops. i mean the troops are there together. the great thing about the military is military cohesion and unit cohesiveness, if you have somebody removed like hasan, somebody has to pick up on that. the great irony of this, jamie, he is a psychiatrist. when we see somebody normally isolated or removed, what you do in the military send them to the chaplain or psychiatrist for counseling to get a little bit of help and find out what's going on. in this case we had a bad apple. the person is supposed to be helping our troops was turning against our troops. his conduct as you nighted earlier is outrageous. saying he is embarrassed and apologizes to allah for serving alongside u.s. armed forces. >> unthinkable for the families of the victims and everyone that is based at fort hood which is