mr. putin. and given the fact that it went so great last time -- remember the two of them in that awkward photograph -- they're not going to meet this time either. >>gretchen: that is because putin wanted to meet with his shirt off and president obama -- just kidding. we've seen a lot of pictures with putin with his shirt off. swimming, on top of a horse. who knows if this is the right call or not? i think the president is trying to send the message we don't agree with you giving even temporary asylum to who many people believe is a traitor, a guy named edward snowden. that is one of the many issues america disagrees with russia about. i'm thinking about other serious issues like syria, iran, et cetera. >>peter: when you think back on history, is this the way we used to treat russia, even in the cold war? you go back 53 years ago to the famous kitchen debate between khruschev and vice president richard nixon and that was broadcast both in the united states and in the soviet union then, and