>> he also, the campaign manage with hillary clinton on her 2008 -- >> that's it! >> wait a minute! >> they called him and told him i know why. also, like stay on just for the fact that a possible hire's going to go like this guy's going to have some stories. >> that's after the reason you get hired. it's not because of skill. >> let me tell you something right now. i have the best gossip that i cannot share. >> you cannot say that. >> do the rhyming game. >> this is the kind of thing that would get me in ouble-tray. >> let's stop toying with the audience with information that we cannot give them. >> is there any better tv than talking about something you can't talk about? >> here's my theory.