under control and lo and behold you learn the employer mandate is not ready. what else isn't ready? >> did they specifically say they'll be ready for the employer mandate. because they seemingly admitted they won't be. >> no, they didn't. they wanted to talk about other elements of obama care. but they were -- >> i mean, going -- july 2nd when we learned the employer mandate would be postponed a year, were you surprised? was that something different than what the administration had been saying about the employer mandate? >> absolutely. the other component is, they were directly asked, you have information about these rates that have now been -- you're discussing them with the carriers. are these rates, can you guarantee that these rates are going down $2500 a family? crickets. no answer. no direct response. well, you know, hedging and nonsense. >> congressman, thank you, sir. >> thank you, greta. president obama says the irs scandal is phony. what does the acting irs chief was what does the acting irs chief have to say about that? is the irs scandal phony? >> would you describe the