the reason is the standard of relevance we are talking about here is nothing -- >> nsa director keithnder was heckled at a conference in>. why would people believe you are not lying to us right now. >> i haven't lied to congress. >> all of this has the administration pretty concerned. president obama is going to meet with a bipartisan delegation from capitol hill to explain how these programs work and why in his mind they need to continue. back to you guys. doug luzader live in washington. thanks. >> talk about a sickening scene here. two companies allegedly paying kickbacks to clinics for directing pregnant women living in the united states illegally to their hospitals. those hospitals then filed fraudulent medicaid claims and that is a shocking allegation. a federal whistleblower lawsuit that was just unsealed. florida based health management