was going to get to the bottom of it? why are people there being sequestered and kept away from microphon microphones. >> sean smith died serving his country. his mother says her son's death is not fake, not phony. pat smith joins us. good evening, pat. >> hi, there, greta. sxwl pat, you know, you can never walk in someone else's shoes and now exactly how someone else feels, so i throw it to you. the president had a chance to say that the scandal was phony. tell me, when you hear him say that about phony scandals, what does it feel like to you? >> you know what it feems like. it's totally disgusting when you know different. you don't expect the president to tell you lies like that, right to your face. i don't expect that. >> is it, i meerngs does this surprise you that you're hearing this or is it like look, i'm