as they are right now. we actually made that happen by getting rid of muammar qaddafi and there was a lot of talk at the time saying who are we helping here? who are the rebels in libya? are there terrorist factions inside this rebel forces? and none of those questions have turned out particularly well. and this government is, i think, at best what general hamm called fragile. jon: we will see whether those five suspects that the f.b.i. has identified, whether anything happens to them. thanks. >> thank you, jon. patti ann: brand new information on a possible serial killing case unfolding now in cleveland. police just wrapping up a news conference. what we're learning about the charges for the suspect and the victims. we're live with that story. the investigation into that deadly rollercoaster accident. what witnesses are saying and reaction from the popular amusement park. plus the president's comments on race relations after the verdict in the trayvon martin case