talking about a bankruptcy. they have a revenue problem that so many other u.s. cities throughout the country. >> there is no doubt about it. when you look at the facts of detroit. a third -- 40% of the street lights did not work for the first quarter of 2013. homicide rate is an extreme high. a lot of these things are linked. when the financial issue becomes prevalent you have safety issues the. you see a lot of people fleeing cities like detroit in an effort to find a more secure area to live. >> kelly: where do you see the answer? as you just mentioned when you have problems in terms of cutting services, lights for example, the children can't walk home sliafl it is dark. police issue in trying to quell the sense of lawlessness that exists there. is there a remedy in store for detroit. what can they do to turn this around? >> there needs to be a