arrangements, giving conditions to surrender himself. his father knows, he says listen, my son needs to come back here, be held accountable, if it is unconstitutional what he has done, let the courts figure it out. do not do that with our enemies. >> you know what else, this kid doesn't come back in two years, there will be a bullet to the back of his head. >> i told you that before, too. >> all you have to do is look at the people that surround snowden, they don't care about the verizon piece, about the phone records, that's not what they're interested in. they're overjoyed they're helping destroy foreign intelligence capabilities. why should we be there celebrating the downfall of for en intel. if there's fal ability involved, that's a different story. >> how is that wrong. >> there are two separate