then denied tax deductions to tea party groups for more than a year and harassed them with question after question and in a few cases, leaked their donor lists. sometimes leaked them to left wing groups. that is despicable. this is just raw political abuse. brook rollins runs one group that was abused. the texas public policy foundation. what happened to you guys? >> well, john, what happened to us in the spring of last year, 2012, our donor list and as a 501 c 3 charitable organization, which is what our organization is, we have to file with the irs a list of larger donors. but as you know, that list is supposed to remain anonymous and the irs in return promise toss black out every name before it release that is information about the organization. >> why should it be anonymous? people say if you give to a political cause, you ought to be known. >> well, this goes back to the founding of our country in my opinion. the right to associate and to engage is inherent in a democracy and in a free -- >> you have a right to associate.