term, right? >> well, before that. you've got to address it. you can't ignore africa. >> the chinese have been in africa for decades, right? they've setting up shop for a long time. >> absolutely. we need to get in that game. i'll put an american businessman over a chinese businessman anytime. that's what he's doing, promoting trade, trying to work to build up democracy, keeping america safe and prosperous. i think he's doing the right thing. >> nancy, you ticked off the laundry list of the president's accomplishments, but trying to look at it objectively, and believe me i am trying to look objectively, but when it comes to russia, china specifically, do you believe our relationship with both of those countries today is better than it was when barack obama came into office? better. if so, what's your metrics. >> i think it's probably with russia and better with china. china is growing, becoming a