run, and he ran, correct? >> yes, to the back area. >> that's what is confusing me. when you say ran from the back are you saying that at the point that he decided to run -- >> yes. >> -- that he decided to run from where he was to the back of where he was staying? >> yes. >> you don't know what direction he took to head that way? >> no, sir. >> because you don't know where he was at the point that he decided to run. >> no, sir. >> but you do know that he ran. >> yes, sir. >> and you could tell because you could hear the wind. >> yes, sir. >> and then the phone cut off? >> yes, sir. i think -- yes. yes, sir. >> so at that point you knew that he was running? >> yes, sir.