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>> gavin, i am interested in what you have to say about this. i have a feeling it might be something powerful. >> it is very intense. >> 10 years ago you didn't hear about survivalists. they were nut bars in camouflage and they were weird. they thought jews lived in their sand witches. now it is commonplace. there are regular reality shows, one in every town. that's a test as to how bad the government is. if you came down from mars and said how is it going with the citizens here? do they like the planet? they built a bunker 50 feet down. there is no war going on. they are just ready for when the government totally screws up and tries to steel their stuff. that's where we are at. >> your argument is they are making the reality shows about it. >> that's how bad obama is. that's how crappy the

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