him say that, i have to say, absolutely. this president is nowhere near the man or the leader that dick cheney is, and for him to sort of, you know, have all of this rhetoric about honesty, justice, transparency, when we see what's going on here in the united states across the board is lack of credibility, and dealing with the american people, i think he's left a lot of people, frankly, chuckling around the globe, wondering what's going to come next here. >> how does your father react to that comment? >> he laughs. my dad is a man of honor, a man of integrity. a man who has courage of convictions. a man who clearly understood and understands today what it takes to make this nation strong, keep the american people secure, and, again, every time barack obama says i'm no dick cheney, anybody who knows dick cheney nods their head and said you're right. >> and back in 2008, germany,