not and target those accordingly. >> steve, how valuable is this information, first of all in it's collection? and how damaging is it that edward snowden has revealed the -- at least the parameters of the program? >> well, my assumption is that the data is extremely valuable in the work that the intelligence community is trying to do but it's not entirely their decision to make about what scope they have to gather and pursue leads here in the united states. that's something that is completely dependent upon what the judicial branch of government says and what the legislative branch says in exercising oversight. >> one of the questions is if it's so valuable how come it didn't stop boston or have anything to do with the underwear bomber, the shoe bomber, fort hood, little rock -- there are so many instances and it had nothing to do with stopping it so why are we collecting all of this data and if it's so valuable how come to this day we still haven't