person to compare it to. these guys changed law to say you can get a third term abortion in new york state if it is to preserve the mother's health. >> bill: bart of gosnell's defense and you interviewed his defense lawyers, women's health was impacted. she walks in and give birth two days hence. she has anxiety. that is impacting the health. a health exemption can mean anything. it's not defined. am i correct? >> in most states it's true. >> bill: it's a federal level. >> i'm getting there, in planned parenthood, 1992 it came after rowe, they said you can't abort a viable baby. they sustained that piece of federal law you can't abort a child if it is viable. if the mother is going to die even though she is carrying a viable child,