and with your applications, you are asking the american public to pay for that work. >> bill: so it's their fault. we asked congressman mcdermott to appear with us tonight. he declined. he did show up to talk with ms. megyn kelly. >> jim talked about how they lost a $30,000 donation because a lot of people don't want to donate to groups who haven't received that stamp of approval in officially becoming a 501 c 4. >> that was not under testimony under oath. >> you reject it? >> he didn't offer any proof. >> so he was lying? is this your answer to that that anybody who claims that they lost donations they are misleading. >> you are putting words into my mouth. >> i'm asking you. >> you are putting words in my mouth. stop it. >> bill: oh, i wish he was here. no, joining us from washington with reaction, no i'm not going to bother