his defense. it should be clear he said i want to plead guilty to life without parole. i'm ready to go to jail for the rest of my life. we don't have to go through any of this. and that has been rejected. now he's saying his defense is guilty by reason of insanity which would mean he would be eligible for life without parole. this is all without the death penalty. in other words, this is about killing him or not killing him. >>gretchen: why didn't the prosecution just accept that? >> my hope is they spoke to the victims' families and the victims' family are adamant they want the death penalty and that's why they're doing this. it's the citizens most affected by this have made that decision. but we're going to spend a lot of money, time, effort and energy to kill him as opposed to warehouse him until the day he dies. >>brian: when he talk to your staff about this, have they found -- because you don't do any of your research directly. >> just like miss america i'm a harvard law school graduate. >>brian: do you find this