along with it. >> bill: didn't that have to happen? >> that is the culture of dependency. that didn't happen to happen there were conservatives beary goldwater arguing the other way. >> bill: barry got his butt kicked big time in the 1964 election. if you suddenly say to millions of african-americans and other minorities, all right, we're going to let you have full citizenship, all right, after decades of deprivation, you don't think the government has a responsibility to develop social programs to help those people? >> that was part of how it was sold, bill but that wasn't the total intent. >> bill: i will say the same thing to you i said to colmes, do you not think the federal government had a responsibility to people who are down trodden for decades to send some money to help them? >> sure, of course. but as with every government project, it's never limited to what its stated intent is, bill. rug backourse. economy was wobbly and cut taxes to stimulate it. react to this stat. the population increased from