of things keeping peopleings medicare keeping people to the extent that they can stay in the middle class, these are the kinds of things depending on.. >> bill: nobody talking about cutting medicare or cutting social security. >> sure talking about it talking about it today. >> bill: they are not talking about that we paid into it. >> people aret talking -- p paul ryan is noteo talking r about cutting medicare? no talking about creating another system where you would have the option. >> everybody is talking about cuttingteould'm s medica. simpson bowls people came out with a new proposal today. the president himself has said he is open to cuts ine ed in care. >> bill: only cuts in medicare would come from people who are wealthy overld a certain threshold. let's not propagandize the? issue. now, let's get back to the vision that president obama has as compared toresi yours former boss, bill clinton. clinton had very responsible fiscal policy. all right? in fact, he ran a surplus in. so years he was president. he didn't attempthe to micromanage the privatenage