core al-qaeda, it's smaller and groups and networks. they want to grab headlines? >> if you want to describe what al-qaeda was in 1996. you changed the geography and change the names of leaders, it's simply false to imagine, you decimated a current group of leaders but the ideology survived and will survived. foot soldiers survived. look what happened on the streets of london the other day. it seems to me dangerous to assume that because you have taken some of the big ticket names off the table that the threat should simply vanish. >> paul: what about the perpetual war point. president says the authorization after 9/11 can't justify forever the use of drones in these other