media are saying he has essentially declared the post-9/11 era over and we're going back to the standards of going after terrorists before 9/11. >> right. >> right? is that what he said? >> return to the clinton doctrine without the muscle and emphasis. >> do you think that that's what he's doing some. >> that's exactly what he's doing. he's basically saying we can't have an endless war, it goes against our values, our tradition. >> isn't that true? >> well, look, war isn't declared when we say it -- it doesn't end when we say it's over. he even points out we face a continued and one might argue a growing threat from al qaeda in various places we didn't realize existed. before 9/11 maybe they would hit a navy ship or bomb a distant embassy in africa and then we woke up one morning and discovered you let a number of these incidents continue and one of these days towers will go down in a big city. >> isn't it true the threat has