>> bill: hundreds according to people. >> that's not true. convicted of three and not guilty of five. the jury considered all the facts of the case. dr. gosnell didn't kill in mice mind live human. >> bill: in his mind. >> live human babies. >> bill: a what in his mind he was doing because these babies will never ever exist on this planet. i would just like to know that. >> they were dead before he did anything to them. >> bill: because he killed them. >> no he did not. that was abortion. that was the abortion process. big difference between abortion process. >> bill: abortion is killing the fetus. >> it's legal. >> bill: it doesn't matter whether it's legal. he killed them. doesn't matter whether it's legal he killed them. >> it's legal. we're talking about crimes. >> bill: no, i'm talking about philosophy. one more thing. you injected race in this and you said the only reason that this might be happening is because the man is black. do you stand by that? >> that's not what i said. but i said its with a racist elitest prosecution and i said i stand by that