call. there has to be a paper trail. i don't think this ends well for sarah ingram hall. i don't think it end well for the obama administration. bill: there is investigation now from the irs then. are you suggesting, pending the results of the investigation will she be able to run the role or play her role in the, enforcement of obamacare? >> you know, i think they probably need to suspend her with pay while this is being investigated. there is no hope that we can have confidence in the obamacare office give the office she was last in charge of picked and chose who to investigate and to ask them what the contents of their prayers were. bill: there will be a time for her to tell her story. we'll see how she explains all this. >> right. bill: what you talk about is a pattern within the administration. >> yes. bill: a pattern of what, erick. >> of not being held accountable. like "star trek", unnamed red shirt guy gets thrown on the bus while senior people who caused the program gets promoted. benghazi no one lost their