me i'm going to reclaim my time on this then i would say it's targeted. you can't have that both ways. that's targeting and there is 16 times in this report that says that there was targeting. >> this is a problem of the irs being too large, too powerful, too intrusive, and too abusive of honest, hard-working taxpayers. >> this is a huge blow to the faith and trust of the american people have in their government. is there any limit to the scope of where you folks can go? >> this is wrong to abuse the tax system. this screams out for tax reform, does it not? >> i think it's an area right for redefinition and reform, yes, sir. >> do you want to know where a lot of this comes from? look at senator levin's letter. senator levin specifically mental add bunch of the groups that you all targeted. you were all doing what democrat senators were asking. >> i just think the american people have seen what's going on right now in their government. this is absolutely an