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because when i walked in there, everything looked normal. he had furniture but basically what i paid attention to was all his base guitars, his amps because i'm a musician and he's a musician and we use that as furniture almost in our homes. ii didn't really hear anything. pretty much it looked like a house where a single man lived in, that's when it looked like. >> you hear the news, a guy you've been playing music with for 20 years, and i think the most recent time you were in his house was 2011, and this news brakes and it's him. what do you think? how does that strike you? >> when i first heard it, i was -- i mean, i was speechless. my wife saw me. she said you look like you saw a ghost. i said that's what i feel like. it's hard to believe something so close to home, especially with, you know, a person who i consider like family because we have the same last name and people consider us family, i have known the families for

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