pointed out everywhere is driven by the minority precincts. so, therefore, it is not a gun control issue it is a race issue. >> it's a drug war issue. there are no budweiser gangs or march burrow gangs. >> there are white drug dealers and white drug trafficking. >> and they are no more likely to fight with lawyers rather than guns because they are plugged into the system. >> so you don't see a racial component here? >> yeah. the numbers speak for themselves. but you say that if you took the drug war away and legalized all narcotics, that this violent crime generated by blacks and hispanics would evaporate? you don't think it would go anywhere else he? >> it would go down sharply and most of the criminals would get real jobs because they have to. >> bill: see, i think you just live in the land of oz on that one. i really do. i think the criminals would find another way to make