them. >> they were not viable. they did not take a breath, by the way that is not an appropriate legal way to even, you know, kill a baby. these aren't abortions. these were done outside this isn't the right way. the women were drugged, the babies were drugged. >> bob: can you imagine going home and explaining to your family why out there being a defense witness for this guy? that's a big part of it it. who in their right mind would. >> they will be cross-examined because some of the other testimony in the grand jury was that these babies felt tremendous pain which this was being done with them with the scissors in the back. sning. the judge really is. i mean he is really mucked this up. first, didn't he make an error dropping the charge against baby c? wasn't there testimony that the baby was alive outside of the womb? this is buffaloing.