the law. it also coincided with the fact there is a black rapper in prison in cuba for criticizing the government. there is black women being dragged through the streets for peaceful protests. there is political prisoners. there is repex and harassment. i really don't understand, there is an american citizen called alan gross in cuba. i don't understand what is cultural about this trip. >> greta: it occurred to me in watching it, the best that i could see is they did it legally and met all of the requirements. almost like they have a tin ear. i don't think they get any sense that they know what cuba is all about. even the rap song that jay-z released after he got back, you would have thought that he would have made reference to the items you said and what a terrible -- what terrible to live under a government like that but it is almost like it was a lark to them that they didn't get the seriousness of it and they don't know cuba. do you have that sense? >> no, they definitely do not