yellow sea, something that would cause us to get heavily involved. what you worry about in this situation is the first few hours there can be a lot of damage, a lot of human damage. >> we have 30,000 troops there. all right. so if, in fact, he attacks south korea, we will be involved in a military battle against the north, correct? >> yeah, by treaty we have to. i think what we need to do right now is go to china and say to china, look, this is your ally. you have been very, very weak in pushing them to do the right thing, which is to cool down. >> how do we -- >> this is going to be -- >> i don't get this, we have to beg the chinese to be decent. the same chinese of that been hacking into our computer system. >> you don't beg them, you say to them this is going to be the consequence if you don't do something with north korea. the consequence is going to be