antipoverty programs. that's about the same size as the u.s. national debt. while the poverty rate in the 1960s was around 15%, it remains stubbornly there to this day. so if these programs have not helped people that are in need, who has benefited? large corporations and this town, boom town, have profited enormously from the expansion of these programs. since 2008, federal government spending on food stamps has doubled. that's your taxpayer dollars. as the rolls increased, the profits in some of of america's largest corporations have increased as well. >> sean: we continue with peter schweitzer and steve. $15 trillion. now we have more poverty than ever before. 50 million americans on food stamps. 14 million americans disabled. all on government handout.