>> greta: wouldn't that have been cheaper? >> in this mess and enormously complex thing, i think it would have. we have the best healthcare system in the world. >> greta: but not everybody has access to it. >> but there has to be a simpler clearer easier way to do it than this thing that nobody can understand. >> greta: with the single payors if the obama administration had brought down perhaps the age of medicare. bring it down to 45 and everybody under 45 buy catastrophic. people like medicare. clean tup and bring the age down so people who can't get nines their 40s and 50s can get it. by calling it one payor they set off a p.r. war that fought against it. people like medicare. >> and it is a great deal. i have used medicare. let me tell you you something, mckinley medicare costs -- medicare costs are outrunning the contributions significantly. >> greta: because we never