at economic justice? >> essentially what you're saying, is, listen, people out there who either aren't working or working but not making a lot of money because the scales of america are so imbalanced, if somebody on wall street is making x-amount of money, certainly, certainly someone helping to interpret the obamacare rules in a different language deserves $100,000 a year. martha: in terms of numbers of people who could apply for these jobs, we're getting a sense of what it could look like because california has said, well, we need about 21,000 of these navigators to help our californians understand this law. >> right. i mean, we're essentially talking about an army, a de facto army, and a registration army because toward the end of the whole process they also say, listen, by the way, you can register to vote. now, again, you know, supposedly it will be impartial but, again, if you have someone saying president obama provided you with free health care.