you that we are incapability of implementing it in a rational way and must go. quite a ways down the road. >> shannon: and we have seen limits where they were talking about ages or methodologies that are used. there have been some limits. anything that surprised you that you didn't know before you started this research? >> i think it was the human factor. i have always seen supreme court justices as most lay people have sitting up on the bench in robes and sort of got the sense that these people were above us. they are human beings as we are and they drink their coffee the way we do and agonize over decisions the way we do. >> this book doesn't help you decide the question. we thought maybe it would but it only illustrates how difficult the question is and i think it helps you understand the question. i also think in a way with issues like this that is the role of journalists not to have the answer but to make sure people understand the question. >> shannon: and they will get a lot of good story ares along