the court declare a big constitutional right in this regard or rather leave it in the political arena? >> i prefer a uniform standard for the country but 20 years from now i don't think it will matter. i think it will be legal in all 50 states. >> chris: jennifer, for are those who don't know it a first panel here on the panel. a conservative panelist and blogger for the washington post. you have written social conservatives have already lost the battle among voters on same-sex marriage and should leave it up to the political process. what do you mean that they lost the battle? >> if you look at the polls the previous guests were talking about there has been a change among conservatives and republicans and all americans. in ten years or 20 years we will not be talking about this any more. i think you are seeing a swift movement particularly among younger people. i don't think that the supreme court would be wise to follow in roe and preempt the field by holding a 14th amendment right to gay marriage. i think it should be left to the states and i think that is where the gay marriage