that's 19 digits. i dent know what that is. perhaps those dealing with the budget. our deficit isn't up to that. >> shepard: what do you make of the parity this year? last year there were a few teams. this year i don't have a clue. >> that's the thing. that's why it's so interesting this year. last year there was a rabbit, kentucky in years past, duke, north carolina. this year there's no one to chase. gonzaga had the toughest time of any number one seed in 16 years last night when they just won by six points. it's really, really tough. every team that has ascended to number one has fallen off, gotten knocked off. so it's really just a wide-open thing here this year, and really 20 teams have a legitimate chance of this. >> shepard: 20. incredible. i wonder what your sense is for what makes a difference. i always thought an older, experienced back court that handles the ball well is what you need in the tournament. but there's more to it than