>> bill: don't this think there is a payday down the road for that? >> they should. if they had the right teaching ultimately we will be accountable in the fairness god created the world of accountability. >> bill: secular atheists that say once you are dead you are dead. giving you the last word, doctor. more people are choosing to do evil today than ever before in the history of this planet. >> i disagree. this is a constant human temptation. we seek what is outright evil. more often we seek what we think is good for us but which is actually evil in the end. >> bill: you really think that? i'm seeing every day so many other things done to terrible people around this world it's just staggering. that's my job. i have to deal with it every day. that was a fascinating discussion you guys. i really appreciate you coming on. plenty for that ahead as the factor moves along this evening. vicious brawl in upstate, new york. >> i'm not fighting [bleep] >> fighting me. >> yes! [bleep] [bleep] >> bill: that screaming mother urging her daughter to fight has been arrested.