winning stuff. we can nominate him. he is excellent. he should be in the president's national security team. this is -- >> this is arguably the bigger vatican story of the day. >> send him to north korea and get two people talking on the phone and give the guy a peace prize. >> and he is an expert on that kind of thing. >> bill, speaking of experts, you have been covering the vatican for four decades. we were arguing about this in the office. i kept saying it was going to be the guy it was, and you kept saying you were positive it was going to be escolo, the archbishop of milan. >> i did not say that. i said this guy is a fraud. before dennis leaves the vatican, the tryout will come out -- the truth will come out and it will show to be the black guy from ghana as the worm has for told. and so in rod we trust. i know my mom is disuh