what have you, one of those is a universal service fund. that's where the money comes from to fund this program. >> greta: all right, now, look, i mean, without even getting to whether it's a good program or a bad program, it's clear the 41% who don't qualify shouldn't be getting a phone. if you get a phone and you're not supposed to have it and you use it, i mean, you're essentially stealing. i mean, or you applied for one and lie on the application, saying you're below the federal poverty level. that's also a crime. >> sure. >> greta: we have all of this waste and fraud with $902 million a year and there's no-- there has been no effort to try to clean this one up. >> none, what my legislation does, it takes it back to the program's roots where it's landline only. if you're a shut-in and you need a landline, and provided